Jun 11, 2009, 04:32 PM // 16:32
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#1
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Council of Iris
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Apply grace period before /report'ing is allowed
Hi guys,
I must first start off by saying that I am very much against leeching. Whenever I see someone who is quite obviously leeching in JQ/FA/AB (by simply not moving from the base at all, or going somewhere less obvious where he wouldn't be seen afk'ing), then I /report it.
However, I must voice concern over some members of the community who are a bit overzealous using the /report function. Primarily, some people get reported for leeching just as a round starts, when there could be a very reasonable explanation why they haven't moved yet. It could be that they are suffering a bit of lag, or are still downloading content, or any number of reasons. It's unfair that they be tagged a leecher that quickly.
I've seen some people get reported for leeching before the round even starts!
Therefore I propose:
Allow that at least 1 minute pass before the system starts accepting /reports for leeching.
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Jun 11, 2009, 05:05 PM // 17:05
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#2
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2008
Profession: R/
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I'll sign it. I've never had any trouble with loading or lagging at the start, but I imagine it'd be pretty frustrating to get reported with a laggy computer for joining the game 30 seconds late.
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Jun 11, 2009, 05:13 PM // 17:13
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#3
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2009
Guild: Death By[Emo]
Profession: Mo/Me
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I don't see why this shouldn't be added.
/singed
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Jun 11, 2009, 05:13 PM // 17:13
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#4
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Until 3/4ths of a team or whatever reports you isn't it that only the minority that reported themselves get dishonorable due to lack of votes? Isn't that the counterbalance? I've been dishonorable several times for being the only one to report a real leecher, gg.
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Jun 11, 2009, 05:15 PM // 17:15
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#5
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Arizona, USA
Guild: [OOP] Order of the Phoenix I
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/Sign
There are a lot of cases just like the OP describes were people are reported before the match even seems to start. I think a grace period would be a great idea.
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Jun 11, 2009, 05:23 PM // 17:23
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#6
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Raleigh, NC
Guild: Ferrymen Of The River [STYX]
Profession: D/A
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Great idea and would prevent a lot of stupid reports
/signed
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Jun 11, 2009, 05:33 PM // 17:33
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#7
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Imperial Sanctum
Guild: Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI]
Profession: E/Me
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Everyone could have an excuse, but I do believe it would help prevent un-needed bans
/signed
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Jun 11, 2009, 05:37 PM // 17:37
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#8
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2007
Guild: Primeval Warlords[wuw]
Profession: R/
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No leecher is going to only stand around for a minute, and players ARE still trying to get others to be less afraid of /reporting
/Signed
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Jun 11, 2009, 05:40 PM // 17:40
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#9
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Done.
Guild: [JUNK]
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After one enters the arena, it takes a minute for the teleporters to start working in Aspy. During that time - one can not report.
If I am not mistaken, the same rule applies for the Quarry and AB.
There is your minute.
Thus /not signed.
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Jun 11, 2009, 05:58 PM // 17:58
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#10
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canadia
Profession: W/
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The only thing that needs to be done in regards to /report is allowing us to /report regardless of district hopping so we can tag those scumbag gold sellers.
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Jun 11, 2009, 06:00 PM // 18:00
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#11
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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/signed
Oftentimes for AB/CM, I go away to do something else and come back to find out I finally got into a game but I came back a bit late.
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Jun 11, 2009, 06:20 PM // 18:20
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#12
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Super Fans Of Gaile [ban]
Profession: W/
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The report system is terrible. Don't try to band-aid it. Either rework the whole thing, or scrap the whole thing.
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Jun 11, 2009, 06:38 PM // 18:38
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#13
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Co
Guild: The Mentalists [THPK]
Profession: N/Me
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Yea, i normally wait 4 min b4 i report. but i see many that do not.
/signed
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Jun 11, 2009, 06:46 PM // 18:46
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#14
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: USA
Guild: SSW
Profession: E/
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I can go with this. I mean, know the report system needs some work, but you gotta start somewhere.
I do have some issues with loading slowly since I moved into my new home. *cry* I'd dearly love my 20meg connection back, but being 4 miles from the local office, the best I can do is 1.5meg (when it hasn't rained, d*mn sh*tty copper). However, I normally don't have too much of an issue and get loaded before a game starts anyway, but I do know people that play on dial-up (no clue wth they are thinking) that take forever to load....even though the screen says they are there. So yeah, make people wait a min or two before reporting so that people that are just loading slowly don't get reported by 'accident'.
/signed
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Jun 11, 2009, 06:49 PM // 18:49
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#15
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: RAH
Guild: Close Enough [XVII]
Profession: W/A
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But nothing happens when you get reported for this.
I get reported pretty commonly for going afk 30 seconds, and nothing happens at all.
I've gotten dishonorable due to disconnects, but not from being reported.
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Jun 11, 2009, 07:26 PM // 19:26
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#16
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: EastCoast
Profession: E/Me
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nope /notsigned. Sorry you have like 2 mins on a timer in ab/fa/jq to move to the spot. If you can't get in there by then it is your fualt.
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Jun 11, 2009, 08:00 PM // 20:00
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#17
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Guild Hall
Profession: R/
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/signed
because people DO lag or people report to grief...
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Jun 11, 2009, 08:02 PM // 20:02
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#18
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Guild Hall
Profession: R/
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/signed
because people DO lag or people report to grief...
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Jun 11, 2009, 08:11 PM // 20:11
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#19
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: USA
Guild: SSW
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Songbringer
nope /notsigned. Sorry you have like 2 mins on a timer in ab/fa/jq to move to the spot. If you can't get in there by then it is your fualt.
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True you have a decent timer, but I have a guildie that takes a full 3.5 to 4 min to load. We know this, but not everyone else does. He dislikes playing JQ and FA because people continuously report him as a leech and he's not. Once he loads, he does play. We can't exactly control our internet connections or the quality copper/fiber/etc in the ground. They shouldn't be penalized for something they have absolutely no control over. Unless of course you feel they just shouldn't play?
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Jun 11, 2009, 08:27 PM // 20:27
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#20
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Forge Runner
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/signed
Lagging out almost always gets interpreted as leeching in any PvP game or Mission, even loading, where your character enters the game but you are still stuck at the loading screen.
Also one more thing, I do think Anet needs to have a tighter system on the people who chain report just to be a**holes. On more than one occasion I witnessed idiots over on gameamp, when it was still up, express openly about how they get them and their friends to hunt people who don't do "good" in PvP or by their own standards, innocent people playing the game, and chain report them for no reason. I'd like to see everyone who engages in "chain reporting" as i call it.. have their accounts terminated. And I do mean banned permanently. Why? Because they do it more then one time, they do it a lot and the way the report system is now, there isn't a human sitting down to review it, usually it automates a suspension or dishonorable and the person didn't even do anything. This is also how getting reported for a naughty name works, a few people just chain report an innocent person for having a completely normal name and they have no control over it. I also witnessed this happen to someone on gameamp who didn't have a bad name and i'm assuming some fools chain reported him one way or the other.
Last edited by Bob Slydell; Jun 11, 2009 at 08:30 PM // 20:30..
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